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#41 FourT2

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 08:48 AM

Listened to the .NET Rocks podcast a few days ago. Here is the link to that episode: http://www.dotnetroc...px?showNum=1019

 

I want that Galileo board! Submitted my application by have not been selected. Oh well, I will keep playing with my Netduino / Arduino for now. 



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Posted 11 August 2014 - 09:34 AM

@FourT2

 

As it stands i would stick with your Netduino / Arduino...

 

I have been really disappointed with the Galileo experience so far....



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Posted 11 August 2014 - 09:36 AM

I want that Galileo board! Submitted my application by have not been selected. Oh well, I will keep playing with my Netduino / Arduino for now. 

 

Suggested course of action. Come up with a specific cool idea to use it for.  

 

Join the IRC channel and talk about it, You might get noticed <wink wink>



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Posted 12 August 2014 - 03:37 AM

Suggested course of action. Come up with a specific cool idea to use it for.  

 

Join the IRC channel and talk about it, You might get noticed <wink wink>

 

Hello!

However they did respond to me with a complaint concerning their site and wanting to confirm my information.

 

That was several weeks ago.

 

Problem is that I'm not a fan of IRC, I never figured out how to make it work for me......



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#45 swamplander

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Posted 12 August 2014 - 11:30 AM

Noob here... what channel / server is the IRC chat?



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Posted 13 August 2014 - 03:13 AM

https://webchat.free...indowsondevices



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Posted 13 August 2014 - 02:00 PM

Registered a very long time ago when the site just was available(same day)

 

Have not seen any response from it until today.

 

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#48 Nevyn

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:39 PM

If you have a Galileo Rev 1 board you can get this running Windows now:

 

http://ms-iot.github...ghtAGalileo.htm

 

Takes about 45 minutes to get going if you have VS2013 installed.

 

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:50 PM

Running a simple .NET console app on the Intel Galileo with Windows by Pete Brown



#50 FourT2

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 10:54 PM

Very cool. Does anyone know the model number(s) of gen 1 Galileo? For example, it appears that this one here is gen 1, but I am not sure if it has firmware 1.0.2 specifically: http://www.amazon.co...s=intel galileo  



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Posted 21 August 2014 - 05:05 AM

The amazon one is supposedly gen 1. I read somewhere that WIndows required gen 2 BUT I was told that was not the case, and that is confirmed here; 

 

http://ms-iot.github...ghtAGalileo.htm

 

So that Amazon buy should be good.



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Posted 21 August 2014 - 05:34 AM

Right on, will buy one this week! 



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Posted 21 August 2014 - 05:53 AM

Very cool. Does anyone know the model number(s) of gen 1 Galileo? For example, it appears that this one here is gen 1, but I am not sure if it has firmware 1.0.2 specifically: http://www.amazon.co...s=intel galileo

 

I had to upgrade the firmware on mine.  Took about 5-10 minutes to do that and was simple enough.  The links posted have the instructions.

 

Interestingly, in "Windows" mode it's not really too fast.  Fastest signal I have been able to get out of the beast so far is ~60Hz with a 33% duty cycle when just toggling GPIO pins.

 

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 05:55 AM

 

Noticed that yesterday.  Interesting to see how much .NET they actually get working and what the performance impact will be.

 

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 07:00 PM

Had a play comparing the Galileo performance with the Netduino Plus 2.  Initial naive impressions aren't favourable for the Galileo.  More investigation may be required.

 

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 07:34 PM

With a 1ms sleep toggling pin 13 you will get anywhere from 4ms to 14ms on the scope.
This appears to be due to the fact the io is being driven thru a I2C chip.
There are 3 pins driven directly via the quack that result at around 3ms
The same test with netmf running 4.3 on a stm32f427 results at a constant 1.05ms

Like I said...at the moment not very flash...

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 07:56 PM

Like I said...at the moment not very flash...

Yes, at the moment the Netduino Plus 2 appears to be a better option.

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 08:04 PM

So that would be a problem for Windows and Linux then? As in a hardware limitation?

 

I'm really starting to get the impression none of these devices are going to satisfy the needs from a hardware standpoint. If you want to play in the IoT space you better have a SMC soldering pencil ready (metaphorically).

 

After a week of trying to make it work, I'm going to the FPGA board now.



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Posted 21 August 2014 - 08:13 PM

Linux is no different...

For me IoT = STM32F4xx + NETMF

Does everything I need...

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Posted 22 August 2014 - 06:30 PM

It seems like the Galileo Gen 2 addresses some of the problems with speed on the I/O pins.   I am going to pick one up and see what it can do.  Microsoft is also working on a windows OS update for it.   Based on your observations on how slow Gen 1 is,  I will skip playing around with it.






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