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More GoBus news: through-hole GoPort IDC Headers


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#1 Chris Walker

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 03:56 PM

Some of you have asked for a through-hole version of the GoPort IDC headers ("GoSockets") we use on Netduino Go and the GoModules.

I'm pleased to announce that we have ordered thousands of through-hole GoPort IDC headers. These are scheduled to arrive in about 4-6 weeks, and will be available through Amazon.com and select Netduino Authorized Resellers.

Combined with the STM8S105 DIP microcontrollers, these through-hole headers make it possible to build GoModules without surface mount soldering. This will make custom module development and module kits a possibility for a lot more tinkerers.

In addition to the through-hole headers, we will also be making the surface-mount headers available in boxes of 10 pcs each.

Here are the MSRPs:
  • $9.95 | GoPort IDC Headers (10 pack) - Surface Mount
  • $12.95 | GoPort IDC Headers (10 pack) - Through Hole
For volume production, we've reached out to our distribution partners. I'm pleased to announce that Arrow and Mouser are now making FCI's shrouded IDC headers (through-hole) available in medium-volume quantities as well.

I took a quick photo of both the surface-mount and through-hole headers with my phone (attached).

I'm looking forward to seeing what users build with these new through-hole options.

Chris

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 04:18 PM

Awesome! Can't wait for them to be stocked! Posted Image

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 04:20 PM

Three quick notes: 1. The first batch of these are being manufactured by FCI, so they're the standard dark grey color that FCI uses. If these are really popular, we'll custom-make them in our deep black color to color-match the SMD sockets. For most purposes, the dark grey looks great. 2. These also work great as MiniJTAG headers. If you're using an STLink/V2 with your Netduino Go or Shield Base, these are keyed which will help prevent misalignment of your MiniJTAG cable. 3. These headers are 0.05" pitch IDC headers, not the larger 0.1" headers used on breadboards. You'll want to use thinner solder with these. I've been hand-soldering them with lead-free standard-gauge solder without much trouble. Some folks will prefer surface-mount headers and some will prefer through-hole. We're glad to have both options available now, and we welcome your feedback. Chris

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 04:42 PM

i have found solder with a diameter of 0.5mm or below works well. If you can get hold of the really thin .3mm solder without buying a whole spool (its quite pricey) then do so you will not regret it :-) Nak.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 04:51 PM

To add to this, I've been plotting this with Chris, since I think DIP components are really useful for the DIY community who are a bit afraid for SMD soldering (myself included!) One part of the plot is from my side, and attached you'll see a part of it. As soon as both the THT socket and STM8S in DIP form factor are available I'll publish a few Fritzing templates that connects both of them. Chris has been his nice self, and sent me some samples to play with, so I know for sure that I'll be able to show some cool stuff with them soon!

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 05:06 PM

As soon as both the THT socket and STM8S in DIP form factor are available I'll publish a few Fritzing templates that connects both of them.


Any chance of getting the Eagle part for the two headers published as a library? Either that or a pointer to the part name and library would help - I've not been able to find the part in Eagle's libraries.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 05:07 PM

..DIY community who are a bit afraid for SMD soldering (myself included!)

If you can solder 0.05" pitch through-hole headers, you don't have to be afraid of SMD Posted Image But it is nice to have THT variant, for projects that already contain THT parts it offers a little bit different options for routing than the SMD version (i.e. more space towards the edges, but less space between the pins).
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 05:10 PM

Any chance of getting the Eagle part for the two headers published as a library?

You can easily copy the existing [SMD] footprint from Netduino Go module .brd files (attached to the respective module pages on the wiki).

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 05:13 PM

You can easily copy the existing [SMD] footprint from Netduino Go module .brd files (attached to the respective module pages on the wiki).


I'm not using Eagle but some software which can use Eagle libraries but not the board files :(

I've already tried what you have suggested.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 05:13 PM

If you can solder 0.05" pitch through-hole headers, you don't have to be afraid of SMD Posted Image But it is nice to have THT variant, for projects that already contain THT parts it offers a little bit different options for routing than the SMD version (i.e. more space towards the edges, but less space between the pins).


I don't really have experience with SMD soldering and the small space is difficult for me. It's easier for me to clean up a bad THT solder than I imagine it would be for SMD. For my purposes, I just like through-hole for prototyping (100% of what I seem to do!) with the theory of eventually using SMD components for pick-n-place board manufacturing.

I suppose I should bite the bullet and just figure out what the state of the art is in SMD reflow hot air, reflow, solder paste, further words, and just use that but I have a tiny apartment and currently do very little with hardware which makes justifying the extra tools a bit difficult.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 05:16 PM

If you can solder 0.05" pitch through-hole headers, you don't have to be afraid of SMD Posted Image


I'd agree with that. I followed some links from Pete Brown's blog on SMD soldering I managed to solder 0.65 pitch with "reasonable" ease. Not perfect, not easy but also something not to be frightened of.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 05:17 PM

If you can solder 0.05" pitch through-hole headers, you don't have to be afraid of SMD Posted Image

I somewhat agree ;) But I've tried both THT and SMD Go! headers, and I found the THT ones easier. Also, it's a bit of confidence, I know I can do THT. :unsure:
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 07:30 PM

Any chance of getting the Eagle part for the two headers published as a library? Either that or a pointer to the part name and library would help - I've not been able to find the part in Eagle's libraries.

Regards,
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Im currently building a netduino library for design spark
Currently contains:
  • Shield headers (at correct spacing)
  • STM32F4
  • STM32F0
  • STM8S (will add dip varient as well)
  • Go sockets
  • Handful of common components
Its not eagle i know, but i have used pulsonix (which shares the same core) in the past, and its free with no layer or pad limit.
Any way i was considering porting the lib to Eagle and Kicad as well, if there is enough interest i will see what i can do.

Nak.
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 07:37 PM

Im currently building a netduino library for design spark


I'm currently using Design Spark as well so I'm interested if you are willing to share.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:09 PM

sure I will finish it up tonight and post a link when done :)

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 10:41 AM

What's type of GO! Sockets?Posted Image

It is called SUX socket?Posted Image

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 11:03 AM

What's type of GO! Sockets?Posted Image

It is called SUX socket?Posted Image


Technically speaking a Go (or Gadgeteer) socket is just a 0.05" (1.27mm) pitch header i.e. a grid of pins with 0.05" between centers, nothing special, just pretty damn hard (impossible) to find in small quantities at a reasonable price, other than as engineering samples which is not a viable option if you need more than 10 of them.

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 11:18 AM

Hi supra,

What's type of GO! Sockets?Posted Image

It is called SUX socket?Posted Image

S-U-X is the compatibility type for Gadgeteer modules if you want to use one with your Netduino Go mainboard.

The GoPort IDC Headers ("GoSockets") are standard 0.05" pitch shrouded IDC headers. They're the same connectors found on Netduino Go and the GoModules--but now in both SMD and THT styles.

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 11:25 AM

Hi supra,


S-U-X is the compatibility type for Gadgeteer modules if you want to use one with your Netduino Go mainboard.

The GoPort IDC Headers ("GoSockets") are standard 0.05" pitch shrouded IDC headers. They're the same connectors found on Netduino Go and the GoModules--but now in both SMD and THT styles.

Chris



Thank, chris.Posted Image

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 11:28 AM

just pretty damn hard (impossible) to find in small quantities at a reasonable price, other than as engineering samples which is not a viable option if you need more than 10 of them.

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It is easier to find S-U-X socketPosted Image




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