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Netduino Firmware v4.2.0 RC5 (Netduino + Netduino Plus)

Started by Chris Walker , May 10 2012 09:57 PM

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#61 Chris Walker

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 06:12 AM

Hi giuliano, Did you flash the TinyBooterDecompressor first using SAM-BA? RC5 requires an updated bootloader so that you get the 56KB of code space...and flashing the rest of the firmware may fail like this if the bootloader doesn't match. Chris
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 06:34 AM

That MFDeploy error also means the firmware is too big - I can see in the screenshot the size of ER_FLASH starts with 0x00063A.., which is larger than the available space reported in the other screenshot (0x0005E000). You have to flash the correct bootloader first, as suggested by Chris.
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 04:34 PM

Thanks Chris and CW2, I am pretty sure that's the step I am missing after doing more reading about it. Stefan posted this link: http://wiki.netduino...ep-by-step.ashx Where explains the steps to do so, my bad, this is the first time I am doing a Firmware update becuase I am pretty sure my Netduino Plus came with the bootloader preloaded for 4.1. Still learning here. Thank you both.
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Posted 07 June 2012 - 02:18 AM

Thanks Chris and CW2, I am pretty sure that's the step I am missing after doing more reading about it.

Stefan posted this link:

http://wiki.netduino...ep-by-step.ashx

Where explains the steps to do so, my bad, this is the first time I am doing a Firmware update becuase I am pretty sure my Netduino Plus came with the bootloader preloaded for 4.1. Still learning here.

Thank you both.


Indeed that was the step I was missing. Yeah!!!
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#65 Giuliano

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 07:09 AM

Now I am getting this error if I try to either debug or just deploy a few changes I made to my app:

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Please advise

PD: I am curious about something. I remember seen 2 checkboxes in the screen below, framework and deployment but the framework checkbox is gone. Do I need to reflash the board again?

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#66 Chris Walker

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 07:24 AM

Hi giuliano, I'm guessing that your app is a bit too big. With NETMF 4.2 RC5, you have 56KB of code space on your Netduino Plus but the app is 62,828 bytes. Chris
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Posted 07 June 2012 - 01:34 PM

Hi giuliano,

I'm guessing that your app is a bit too big. With NETMF 4.2 RC5, you have 56KB of code space on your Netduino Plus but the app is 62,828 bytes.

Chris


Duh. Sorry I am still thinking PC here, where limitations are not much a problem nowadays. I was freaking out, I thought I fried the board somehow :D

Very ambiguous error message, don't you think? Let me guess, it is just a generic error message from MS. I am used to see those from time to time in the .NET framework :D
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Posted 07 June 2012 - 05:38 PM

Hi giuliano,

I'm guessing that your app is a bit too big. With NETMF 4.2 RC5, you have 56KB of code space on your Netduino Plus but the app is 62,828 bytes.

Chris


A few more questions related to this. The Netduino Plus specs reads as follows:

Code Storage: 64 KB - Without networking: 128 KB
version 4.2.0.0 RC5 -> Increased code space from 48KB to 56KB for Netduino Plus

Am I missing something? Or that code storage space was based on the 4.1 Framework?
How do I disable the Networking functionality so I get the 128 KB of code storage?

Thank you in advance for the feedback.
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Posted 07 June 2012 - 06:08 PM

A few more questions related to this. The Netduino Plus specs reads as follows:

Code Storage: 64 KB - Without networking: 128 KB
version 4.2.0.0 RC5 -> Increased code space from 48KB to 56KB for Netduino Plus

Am I missing something? Or that code storage space was based on the 4.1 Framework?
How do I disable the Networking functionality so I get the 128 KB of code storage?

Thank you in advance for the feedback.



Version 4.1 of the Netduino firmware supports 48kb, where as version 4.2 RC5 can support 56k.

In order to get "without networking" you need to re-flash your Netduino Plus as a Netduino using the Netduino firmware instead of the plus firmware.
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Posted 07 June 2012 - 06:10 PM

Version 4.1 of the Netduino firmware supports 48kb, where as version 4.2 RC5 can support 56k.

In order to get "without networking" you need to re-flash your Netduino Plus as a Netduino using the Netduino firmware instead of the plus firmware.


Should note that I also think this means you lose the use of the onboard micro SD card slot.
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Posted 07 June 2012 - 06:37 PM

Thank you both for explaining that.
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#72 Chris Walker

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 08:29 PM

Should note that I also think this means you lose the use of the onboard micro SD card slot.

You do lose the automatic mounting, true. But you can get that back by using the StorageDevice.MountSD(...) method with the regular Netduino firmware (specifying the appropriate pins).

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 08:51 PM

You do lose the automatic mounting, true. But you can get that back by using the StorageDevice.MountSD(...) method with the regular Netduino firmware (specifying the appropriate pins).

Chris


Wow, interesting. I gotta play with that.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 07:08 AM

Hi Chris, Sorry to be an *ss, but can you give us some clarification about OneWire/1-wire support in the 4.2 firmware? I believe OneWire support is native in NETMF 4.2, so it should be in the Netduino 4.2 FW too, no? Kind regards, Niels R.

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 07:27 AM

Hi Niels,

Sorry to be an *ss, but can you give us some clarification about OneWire/1-wire support in the 4.2 firmware? I believe OneWire support is native in NETMF 4.2, so it should be in the Netduino 4.2 FW too, no?


NETMF 4.2 grew a bit, and the integrated OneWire class hasn't been tested...so the current plan is to create a special version of the production 4.2 firmware with CW2's OneWire support integrated into it. There's nothing available quite yet.

Chris

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 07:45 AM

Hi Niels,

NETMF 4.2 grew a bit, and the integrated OneWire class hasn't been tested...so the current plan is to create a special version of the production 4.2 firmware with CW2's OneWire support integrated into it. There's nothing available quite yet.

Chris

Thanks a lot for the quick reply.

I'll just leave my Netduinos aside for OneWire projects until this is in the final FW.

Cheers,
Niels R.

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 02:12 AM

Do we have access to the source for RC5 yet? Thanks, Jeff

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 08:20 AM

Do we have access to the source for RC5 yet?

Thanks,

Jeff


Source access would be very handy for me as well, as i need some SPI specific tweaks to the firmware for my current project to run with adequate performance, and i cant evaluate 4.2 fully without making the necessary changes, and i would really really like the GC improvements and increased codespace for the extra headroom it gives in my project.

Would it be possible to release source as well as the compiled firmware and bootloaders with each Beta, (obviously with a suitable disclaimer of here be dragons, etc.) as it would allow the community to help test and speed integration of highly requested features such as the OneWire extensions etc.

Nak.

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 04:09 PM

Please Chris let us know when "Ethernet never works if not connected on bott up with SAM7X" issue is fixed. I'm really concerned about this. Nico

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 04:11 AM

Chris,
I just wanted to follow up on this to see if you have had any success in recreating this, or if there is anything else I can try to reproduce.

Thanks!


Chris,
Have you been able to recreate the ethernet problem I described earlier?

Thanks,
Adam
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