- Netduino Forums
- → Magpie's Content
Magpie's Content
There have been 156 items by Magpie (Search limited from 25-April 23)
#27875 USB Audio Device - FINALLY WORKS!!
Posted by Magpie on 22 April 2012 - 08:24 AM in Project Showcase
#25488 USB Audio Device - FINALLY WORKS!!
Posted by Magpie on 14 March 2012 - 03:49 AM in Project Showcase
#27629 USB Audio Device - FINALLY WORKS!!
Posted by Magpie on 19 April 2012 - 08:35 AM in Project Showcase
#26316 USB Audio Device - FINALLY WORKS!!
Posted by Magpie on 03 April 2012 - 12:44 PM in Project Showcase
#26384 USB Audio Device - FINALLY WORKS!!
Posted by Magpie on 04 April 2012 - 12:24 PM in Project Showcase
#26319 USB Audio Device - FINALLY WORKS!!
Posted by Magpie on 03 April 2012 - 01:25 PM in Project Showcase
#27859 USB Audio Device - FINALLY WORKS!!
Posted by Magpie on 22 April 2012 - 12:25 AM in Project Showcase
#26339 USB Audio Device - FINALLY WORKS!!
Posted by Magpie on 03 April 2012 - 10:46 PM in Project Showcase
#27450 USB Audio Device - FINALLY WORKS!!
Posted by Magpie on 17 April 2012 - 12:20 PM in Project Showcase
After a while, the usb chip seem to get hot, no magic smoke but it smells
That's no good.
I know almost nothing about your schematic and I know you probably already know this stuff, but I will throw in my 20 cents anyway just in case there is something that could help.
It sounds like a short somewhere, hopefully not in one of the main chips.
Assuming your circuit design is good.
You can short pins with static.
Or maybe its in the pcb
or your soldering is probably crap (just kidding).
Do you have a current limited voltage supply?
If it is a short you can turn it on at a lower than normal voltage, so you get some abnormal current, say 300mA, but just enough so nothing new is cooked.
And if you have an accurate multimeter you can trace millivolts to find where the short is.
Good luck, (I'm also giving you a bit of moral support just in case the above doesn't help.)
#26371 USB Audio Device - FINALLY WORKS!!
Posted by Magpie on 04 April 2012 - 10:40 AM in Project Showcase
#27706 USB Audio Device - FINALLY WORKS!!
Posted by Magpie on 20 April 2012 - 11:42 AM in Project Showcase
#27919 USB Audio Device - FINALLY WORKS!!
Posted by Magpie on 23 April 2012 - 03:57 AM in Project Showcase
There is a lot of stuff here that I am not very experienced in but ignore that and I will try to give you some extra ideas.
It seems the crystal is ok. If you cant actually get to the clock pulse because it's internal to the chip and the crystal looks good, what else can you do but assume it is good.
I am not sure your decoupling circuitry is correct, but it is hard to see from the photos.
both C5 and C7 according to the reference design should have a 1uF ceramic in parrallel to a 10uF electro. the ceramic should be as close as possible to the pins.
all other ceramics should probably be the very close to their pins as well.
Are they ceramic? some have that baby shit brown colour that they use on tantalum caps.
I guess the standard approach is to debugging digital circuits is.
- Check all grounds. (Voltages)
- Check all power.
- check clock (it seems to be entirely internal, so check crystal which you have done.)
- check all inputs for irregularity, such as indeterminate logic states, unexpected noise or waveforms, and if you can check the expected logic state is there.
Lastly what I often find is a good way to solve problems that are complicated, is to
start with something that is working and keep adding to it until you add the thing that breaks the system,
this works better than starting with something that isn't working and trying to work backwards.
In your case, did you have a breadboard that does work? does it still work? What is different?
Think to yourself this is where I earn my money. (while you look for needles in a haystack.)
The other obvious place for the problem is in software.
By the way how does it stop working, does the usb driver stop talking?<br><br>
#28329 USB Audio Device - FINALLY WORKS!!
Posted by Magpie on 30 April 2012 - 08:25 AM in Project Showcase
#28590 USB Audio Device - FINALLY WORKS!!
Posted by Magpie on 06 May 2012 - 04:02 AM in Project Showcase
#46570 USB Audio Device - FINALLY WORKS!!
Posted by Magpie on 03 March 2013 - 08:00 AM in Project Showcase
Hi Hanzibal
I did say I wanted a board but money is a bit tighter these days than last year. But I wont say a definite no as my music is gradually moving to hard disc, and your system could be useful. But I have a few unfinished things I need to do, so a new project is not high on the list.
Did you ever get to the bottom of your Crystal problems or did the oscillator just fix everything? I will probably lay out a board with a crystal soon. I normally just get an internal oscillator on the chip.
#28243 USB Audio Device - FINALLY WORKS!!
Posted by Magpie on 28 April 2012 - 01:56 AM in Project Showcase
#29263 USB Audio Device - FINALLY WORKS!!
Posted by Magpie on 16 May 2012 - 01:53 PM in Project Showcase
#28260 USB Audio Device - FINALLY WORKS!!
Posted by Magpie on 28 April 2012 - 11:40 AM in Project Showcase
#46933 USB Audio Device - FINALLY WORKS!!
Posted by Magpie on 09 March 2013 - 01:43 PM in Project Showcase
Hi Hanzibal
On the subject of Oscillators here is a short app note on them. It seemed pretty good. Apart a typo on one of the schematics, where L1 uses a capacitor symbol.
http://www.euroquart.../tech-notes.pdf
I didn't find to much talk on symmetry though.
#28264 USB Audio Device - FINALLY WORKS!!
Posted by Magpie on 28 April 2012 - 02:06 PM in Project Showcase
I can't see anything that could be the cause of this problem, that hasn't been mentioned already.
Did you check ALL your ground pins have good contact with ground?
Here is an oscillator that looks similar to yours
My link
The only other thing I can think of is can you move the components on your breadboard to get a similar behaviour? This again would be a lot of effort for little chance of success.
#28978 USB Audio Device - FINALLY WORKS!!
Posted by Magpie on 13 May 2012 - 11:13 PM in Project Showcase
Thanks, sorry for the delay, just got back from a week's vacation in France and Italy.
I would love to have a logo of a "Frankencat" and started thinking in line with your suggestion. I'm not much of a router but still considering to maybe integrate the amplifier on the same board, I mean it's kind of scares now plus there's two sides to play with.
Could be there's not much room for a logo then even if I go up to 100x80mm which is the limit of the free version of Eagle.
What you think?
I guess it wouldn't be good to make the board size bigger just to fit a logo, but maybe just fit whatever you can.
Also I think you should watch the separation of the power stage and the preamp stage, to make sure you don't get inadvertant feedback and hum.
It's been a while since I considered these problems, and sometimes they are not really problems at all.
I am just mentioning the following as a possibility, it is a bit of extra cost and complication.
I think what proved to be the best strategy for noise immunity was to connect the power and common as a star, back to the main power section, and pass the analogue signals around as balanced signals.
Balanced signals are balanced around the common voltage rail.
eg Unbalanced
wire 1. common 0 volts
wire 2 signal 1 sin(wt) volts.
Balanced
wire 1. common 0.5 sin(wt) volts.
wire 2 signal - 0.5 sin(wt) volts.
in either case the signal level is the same but the balanced system has more noise immunity.
I don't think you really need to go this path, but I am sure that most high end equipment uses this type of interconnection whenver possible, between boards and between devices.
#28318 USB Audio Device - FINALLY WORKS!!
Posted by Magpie on 29 April 2012 - 11:09 PM in Project Showcase
#30885 USB Audio Device - FINALLY WORKS!!
Posted by Magpie on 19 June 2012 - 01:02 PM in Project Showcase
#25928 [UK] Electrical Supply help
Posted by Magpie on 24 March 2012 - 12:21 PM in General Discussion
#25924 [UK] Electrical Supply help
Posted by Magpie on 24 March 2012 - 11:38 AM in General Discussion
- Netduino Forums
- → Magpie's Content
- Privacy Policy