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Netduino 2 Mini planned?

Started by FMode, Jan 23 2013 10:27 PM

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#1 FMode

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 10:27 PM

As the topic states...

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#2 Chris Walker

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 11:24 PM

Hi FMode, There are no immediate plans for a Netduino Mini 2. It's really hard to pack that much NETMF power into such a small module (especially with edge pins).

We can re-explore that later this year...but for now we're focused on new features for Netduino mainboards and more accessories to help bring your projects to life. Chris

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:01 AM

I'm a great fan of the mini, its so robust and versatile while yet tiny.

I too would love to see an upgraded mini. In the meantime there's always the Cerb40 over at GHI:

http://www.ghielectr...log/product/353

Just like the N+ and N2, it's based around the STM32F4 @ 168Mhz with FPU, 1MB FLASH and 192KB RAM, 36 GPIO and USB host. It's a little bit bigger than the N mini but still rather small and got on board USB device which omits the need for an FTDI cable or similar. Optionally, you can also fit a 32.768 kHz crystal to enable the real time clock. Yes, I like that one too :-)

@Chris: Sorry for mentioning products from another vendor but you have to admit it's a pretty nice board.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:36 PM

No worries, hanzibal. We've thought many times about creating a Netduino Mini around the STM32 core, but so far there are too many tradeoffs--including size and power consumption. For example, the board you referenced is about double the physical size of Netduino Mini, very power hungry, and has pins which are not 5V tolerant. We have some thoughts on a Netduino Mini 2, but there are some NETMF pre-requisites we need to put in place first to make something we could feel good about shipping. In the meantime, I get constant pleas from users asking us to keep making Netduino Mini; it seems to be the perfect module-style board for so many projects. For most "Mini" applications, the 0.72 square inch Netduino Mini has ample horsepower, a strong set of peripheral features, and those really nice edge pins that let it slip into a DIP socket without stressing out the socket. It surprises a lot of people how small and versatile it is. Chris

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:36 PM

Could 't agree with you more. I love the mini for all the reasons you mentioned and more. I hardly use anyting else for my projects with the exception of an occosional MSP430 here and there. I must say that I prefer the Netduino forums before any other, there's a welcoming warmth over it that you really can't seem to find elsewhere and it kind of spills over to the products, or is it perhaps the other say around. What I'm saying is that it's not just about numbers on a piece of paper, it takes more and I think Netduino's got just that.��

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:43 PM

now when talking about power consumption, my mini whith some code running is using roughtly 100ma - 110ma, thats around the same that an stm32f4 uses.

id like to see such thing as netduino-mini 40pin version

please just no f2, use a f4 if you design one -.-

edit:

nice features:

rtc enabled

no 12v rs-232 (eeks)

maybe the plus2 enc drivers included so you only need to hook one up

digital to analog pins exposed and useable

My PlayGround and some Code

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#7 Stefan

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 08:45 AM

Could 't agree with you more. I love the mini for all the reasons you mentioned and more.

Another mini-lover

I'm a big fan of the mini, especially since it uses the basic stamp format for which I have IC feet. Makes them easier to hotswap and look like real powerful chips.

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#8 cys

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 03:10 AM

I'm a total mini lover. Please keep making it...

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#9 awaiK

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 07:01 PM

I would love to see a netduino mini successor =)

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#10 Verdris

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:36 PM

I'd just like to express my support for a Netduino Mini 2 around the STM32F processor. I wouldn't even mind if it was a 40-pin version like the Cerb40.

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#11 Maurice

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 01:20 AM

Another fan of the mini. The current version should be proudly posted on the hardware page, even if there are no plans to create another version. It will help you sell more of them... which may help you decide to rev them.

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#12 awaiK

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 01:47 PM

[...] The current version should be proudly posted on the hardware page [...]

Definitely!

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#13 smokingfish

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 04:15 PM

yep, also love it.

I ordered a FEZ Cerb40 as an alternative (especially like the 3 uart's on such a small board) but would love to see a new mini revision.

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#14 Ron13

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 08:49 PM

I also like the mini. onboard rtc would be great. Maybe another 10 or so gpio's, some that are current drain. slightly larger module is ok. the speed is ok for my project.

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#15 not4now

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 12:15 AM

Netduino Mini FTW!

I'll love to see its successor!

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#16 hanzibal

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 10:32 PM

yep, also love it.
I ordered a FEZ Cerb40 as an alternative (especially like the 3 uart's on such a small board) but would love to see a new mini revision.

I got a couple of those about a year ago, mounted the RTC crystal and everything. For some reason I haven't really used them yet, I guess I'm too much in love with the current mini :rolleyes:

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#17 contractorwolf

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 04:13 AM

I would also be interested in a Netduino Mini 2 (love the minis). I would suggest changing the COM2 to a TTL though., and adding a 3v regulator. Dont some of the new chips have an FTDI logic in them as well? A built in USB would be nice as well. Just my 2 cents

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#18 Dr Who

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 02:59 AM

Form factor settling. In its present form it is some what difficult install into an ordinary breadboard.

Whereas the current form factor works for installing it into a BS2 board, I don't normally use them. Most of them are moving from physical serial (RS232 style) input, they are moving towards USB as input. In fact they sell a board which they call a stampdunio, its a BS2 board in the shape of a 'dunio, much like the regular ones here. I imagine the schematic is available on the site.

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