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#1 Krokonoster

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 08:16 AM

Hi, While I'm still a total n00b, I'm curious to know about going forward.... Say you build an awesome project with the help of Netduino, how you go ahead to move that to a board of it's own. Any post / book recommendations on this topic? For instance last night I took what I know so far, and had a bank of led's light up depending on the reading I get from a light sensor (yeah, simple I know!) Broke my heart having to rip it all out again. This more a topic related to .Net Microframework I guess? Once you do that, it's not Netduino no more....

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 02:32 PM

Hi. Without being anymore than a n00b my self, I would say, that if you wan't your project to live on, while working on a new one, you'll have to buy a new Netduino. As far as Netduino is good for prototyping, the hardware is production quality. One option, is to replace a regular Netduino with a Netduino Mini, but otherwise, it's one piece of hardware, for one running solution. You cannot replace a Netduino Plus, Netduino Plus 2 or a Netduino Go with the current minis. A cheap solution, on how to switch components, while switing code, is to use a breadboard for the components. But yet again, you'll still have to unplug/insert the stuff. To be honest, I think your question is more related to electronics, than Netduino or .NET MF in general. If you wan't a quick and easy way to document your projects before disassembly them, you could use some software like Fritzing to make sketches. //Nicky

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 04:48 PM

Also, consider picking up some Arduino shields to solder your work onto. That way, when you want to swap out to a new project, the shield still has all your beautiful stuff on it.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 04:56 PM

Hi,

While I'm still a total n00b, I'm curious to know about going forward....

Say you build an awesome project with the help of Netduino, how you go ahead to move that to a board of it's own.
Any post / book recommendations on this topic?

For instance last night I took what I know so far, and had a bank of led's light up depending on the reading I get from a light sensor (yeah, simple I know!) Broke my heart having to rip it all out again.

This more a topic related to .Net Microframework I guess? Once you do that, it's not Netduino no more....


Not quite sure what you mean by "how you go ahead to move that to a board of it's own". Are you referring to the creation of a circuit board to house your product (for example your bank of LEDs)? Or are you referring to moving it from a development Netduino to a Production Netduino?

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 07:23 PM

Not quite sure what you mean by "how you go ahead to move that to a board of it's own". Are you referring to the creation of a circuit board to house your product (for example your bank of LEDs)? Or are you referring to moving it from a development Netduino to a Production Netduino?

Sorry not being more clear.

Something like this (could only find Arduino examples):
http://blog.makezine...duino-projects/
http://arduino.cc/en...inoToBreadboard
(I hope there's no Netduino vs Arduino attitude? Had enough of that as programmer....Java vs. C#, Linux vs. Windows. Whatever.)

Bit scared Netduino lovers take it personally, but isn't Netduino just a nice thing to prototype and design projects quickly?

#6 JerseyTechGuy

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 07:57 PM

Nothing quite like that. The smaller version of the Netduino is the Mini but there is no small chip or single chip replacement. The Netduino is nice to prototype with, but it's also a production board. I have products going to market soon that run on a Netduino and will have a Netduino inside. If your projects are small and simple and you are looking to do a small or single chip solution you may need to look at a different type of processor. If you are building some kind of LED blinky product of course the Netduino is a bit of overkill. If you are looking to build something to control your home heating and air conditioning via a web interface while having a bunch of temperature, humidity and presence sensors also controlling your home's environment, then the Netduino is right up your alley. It really comes down to having a good understanding of the capabilities of the different types of processors. Knowing their capabilities and limitations, then mapping that to your project. Then in the end, looking for the most cost effective way to produce it. While I could design my own STM32F4 based board to use on my production products, in some way's it doesn't make sense. I certainly couldn't produce the board with all the capabilities of the Netduino Plus 2 for $59.00. It would cost me far more to produce small quantities of these boards thus driving my product price up. So instead I am designing a shield to connect to the Netduino.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 08:46 PM

Thanks a lot for all that Dave. Makes perfect sense and *get* it now. :-)




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