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#61 piwi

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Posted 24 August 2014 - 06:08 PM

Linux is no different...

For me IoT = STM32F4xx + NETMF

Does everything I need...

 

right on Juzzer ... I can only agree ... and now with the 411 coming, even the better ... 

 

The STMF32F429 is, once getting it to work and as far as I can say for the moment, pretty fast but power hungry as well ...

 

 .. but than again it is not really needed (fot IoT) to have the LCD power on board, there are other ways to display output ...

 

Can't barely wait for the discovery kit coming out in the fourth quarter ... maybe an idea for your next workshop (the 411) ...



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Posted 24 August 2014 - 06:45 PM


Now you mention that workshop, Juzzer if you have an idea for a date could you please let us know so we can book our flight in advance ;)

Cheers
Olaf

ps: my 24vIO demo program on windows 8.1 phone is nearly ready.

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#63 Juzzer

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Posted 25 August 2014 - 10:12 AM

411's are on the radar...

No idea on the date or location....next one might be in the South Pacific  :rolleyes:



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Posted 25 August 2014 - 12:45 PM

Hey Juzzer, where about would that be in NZ ... Auckland ?? Wellington ??



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Posted 25 August 2014 - 12:47 PM

Most likely Auckland...



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Posted 25 August 2014 - 12:56 PM

cool then Matamata isn't far away ...



#67 Juzzer

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Posted 25 August 2014 - 01:09 PM

Well if you need to be near Matamata then maybe we should do it on the Coromandel somewhere ;)



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Posted 25 August 2014 - 01:13 PM

a deep dive session does have second taste then ...



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Posted 25 August 2014 - 01:15 PM

:)



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Posted 25 August 2014 - 09:13 PM

411's are on the radar...

No idea on the date or location....next one might be in the South Pacific  :rolleyes:

 

411 ... Dev board for just above 8 euros at mouser's in case you wanna play ... https://mbed.org/pla...-Nucleo-F411RE/



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Posted 29 August 2014 - 09:05 PM

I ordered 2,

 

http://forums.netdui...er-netherlands/

 

 

 

Hopefully I get some time next week to get the blog online.

 

Cheers 

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#72 Juzzer

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 03:42 PM

@Olag - time to crack open the porting kit ;)



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Posted 30 August 2014 - 06:47 PM

@Juzzer - Time you send me version 2 ;) I saw a nice present in a GHI topic today.... ..

 

Let me know if its donation Ware :)


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#74 Juzzer

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 06:53 PM

@Olaf - no idea what your talking about :D

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 09:35 PM

"Maybe i'm not the target market and yes it is new out of the box but first impressions last...



So far i am not impressed with the Galileo and will be sticking with NETMF until at least the Galileo supports C#..."


 
Same here for C# but also the NETMFramework itself, threading, bitconverter, etc. the point of .NET was to provide a common set of libraries professionally developed by Microsoft, unlike those community developed for Arduino that are usually buggy incomplete or never concisely developed using common set of programming patterns and practices, to enable platform users like me to create products in agile way, not having to reinvent the wheel all the time. Most of us platform users don't have the skills to write our own RTOS or BitConverter.

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 10:01 PM

I am disappointed in all of them at the moment.

 

How long have we been hearing of new MF support coming real soon?

 

Either people can not estimate things, or they intentionally underestimate. In either case these are the same management teams doing the work, so I have to assume their product is as solid as their estimates, or best case as over sold.

 

Or is there intentional under funding? 

 

Either way, it does anything but inspire confidence.



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Posted 04 September 2014 - 10:18 PM

Well arduino still doesn't have RTOS, Threading or whatever... to do 5 things simultaneously without frying your brain with spaghetti code and millis. And multiple requests and discussions on forums resulting not in "when will we make it, it will be this year or some year" but in "do we really need a RTOS", yeah that really inspires much more confidence.

 

Just an out of topic no trolling intended thing, but as much as I approve opensource I do not believe in it not 1%, you cannot rely on a community driven product, starts cheap and free but if your not ready to commit all your resources 120%, its a flop, assuming you have the resources (manpower). maybe that's the .NET MF problem currently. Id rather pay a licence/tools for it and have it a 1st class citizen in the Microsoft ecosystem then this.



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Posted 05 September 2014 - 06:09 AM

Well arduino still doesn't have RTOS, Threading or whatever...

 

Not from my own experience, as I don't use RTOS on any Arduino, but quick check reveals that ChibiOS, BeRTOS, FreeRTOS support AVR (and there is about 40 more in the Wikipedia list that mentions AVR).



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Posted 07 September 2014 - 02:46 AM

And most important of all, Microsoft is going to be hanging around at the World Maker Faire in two weeks. I plan on being there, and will be reminding them carefully of some of our complaints.



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#80 Se3ker

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 08:08 AM

Not from my own experience, as I don't use RTOS on any Arduino, but quick check reveals that ChibiOS, BeRTOS, FreeRTOS support AVR (and there is about 40 more in the Wikipedia list that mentions AVR).


Yes but its not there by default, i dont know how to use it.
Also i dont really care how its called, i have a device that needs to monitor 3 sensors at different intervals, turn on a few mosfets at different intervals and listen for wireless all the time. Its HARD to do completely right without bugs or lags on an arduino. On netduino i just have 7 threads and they all run fine.




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