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#1 david_88_isep

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Posted 23 April 2014 - 10:55 AM

Hi guys,

I'm working in a project and I must to build a PCB where I will put some shields working with netduino 2.

I got every schematic files (.sch) of these shields, but after search from everywhere I cannot find the netduino 2 schematic files in .sch extension or some extension like that. I only find the schematic file in .pdf but I need the netduino schmetic file to import in eagle, orcad or altium... 

 

Somebody have this file?

I need your help please.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

David



#2 Chris Walker

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Posted 23 April 2014 - 01:18 PM

Hi David,

Grab the board layout file (right next to the schematics PDF) on the downloads page, and open it up in Cadence Allegro (or import it into another compatible tool).

Does that get you on the right path?

Chris

#3 david_88_isep

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Posted 23 April 2014 - 02:13 PM

Hi,

Thanks for you fast answer.

My problem is that i can't generate the schematic from the file you indicate. 
Is possible to supply us with the schematic format, same as you have on the PDF file, but editable (sch file).
I need this so i can design the pcb my way, instead of using your board layout.

Thanks in advance



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Posted 23 April 2014 - 03:43 PM

Hi David,

Since all Netduino products are open source, we publish the native .BRD design files--and the full schematic in PDF format. We use PDF for the schematic because PDF is human readable and pretty universal.

We understand that there are a lot of PCB design tools out there. All of the information necessary to recreate the design in other tools should be in the source files--although there may be a little bit of manual work required to recreate parts of the schematic/layout in your favorite tools for custom designs.

Chris

#5 david_88_isep

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Posted 23 April 2014 - 04:38 PM

Hi,

 

Could you send me the schematic in any format you have, and the program you use to create it. Because if we need to design the schematic ourselves it'll take a lot of time. For instance we have another project tha uses arduino and we do not have this kind of issues, because they supply us at leats the eagle files.

 

Not having the schematic is a huge pitfall in using netduino for real projects.

Thank's in advance



#6 david_88_isep

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 01:44 PM

Hi,

 

Have you some news for me?

 

Thank you for your help.



#7 Chris Walker

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 12:32 AM

Hi David,

For the sophisticated 4-layer mainboards, we use Cadence Allegro. To make sure that community members can build their own Netduinos and create derivative designs, we publish the original board source files (.BRD) and human-readable schematics (.PDF). Both formats have free viewer programs available--which is a big reason why we publish in these formats.

There are other formats we could conceivably export and publish for users with very specific requirements (ART, DSN, etc.), and we can revisit our publication process in the future as we design new boards. For now we're focused on delivering the board designs in the above formats which work with no-cost viewer programs (and in the case of schematics...which are in an easy human-readable format).

If you can give us more information on your application, we might be able to offer additional guidance on how to realize your project.

Chris

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Posted 28 April 2014 - 03:00 PM

Hi

First of all, thanks again for your support.
I am glad to know that you can export to DSN format. 
Please send us the DSN export as soon as possible because we are a bit late on schedule.

Thank's in advance.



#9 Chris Walker

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Posted 28 April 2014 - 05:27 PM

Hi David,

We could conceivably export and publish other formats (ART, DSN, etc.) in the future, for users with those types of very specific requirements.

Today, for the most sophisticated Cadence-designed boards, we publish the board layout source as native .BRD and the schematic as human-readable .PDF. We can offer you both of those today so that you can accomplish your project; we do not have a process in place to create/export/publish other file formats at this time.

If you need help drawing out the schematic in your favorite CAD design tool, there are several members of the community who may be able to offer advice or pointers--and we are happy to point you in the right direction.

Chris

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Posted 28 April 2014 - 09:23 PM

Please send us the DSN export as soon as possible because we are a bit late on schedule.

SecretLabs provides Netduino design files for free, in the format they had chosen. If you want them to solve your project-specific problems - and rapidly, no less - then you should at the very least offer a reasonable amount of money for this (a couple of thousand bucks may do the trick). If everyone expects open source contributors to solve all problems for them, of course for free, we end up with Heartbleed et.al. Chris, I am always surprised how you stay calm when confronted with such impertinence!

 

Cuno



#11 david_88_isep

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 09:36 AM

Hi Cuno
 
          First of all, thanks for your comment. Is always a pleasure to have someone to comment matters in professional Forum’s the way you do.
We develop Hardware and Software (mostly .net). Has developers of Hardware we use a variety of platforms such as Arduino, Beagle Bone, Raspberry Pi, etc. And they all have something in common, they all want the same, they expect the  amount of Developers that use their platform to grow and, for that, they all provide the means to speed up Development of solutions using their platform such as Board layouts, Schematics, Libraries, etc. Netduino as a similar platform should do no less, using your words, if they want to be at the same level. I am not Chris, but the reason he stays calm is because he know all this facts I just mention. As a software Developers we use Microsoft technology from .net Micro Framework, to the full .net Framework version, across all Platforms (Winforms, ASP.net, WPF, Silverlight, etc), the reason I tell you this have two intents, first, for you, that seems to be capitalist person, to realize that our activity already indirectly finances Chris activities (assuming that is supported by Microsoft itself) by using their technologies to build solutions for our customers such as (Windows Azure, and other software that requires the customers to buy Microsoft licenses for Server and Desktop stations), second, as you are reading this right now, you realize how small you are concerning Microsoft technologies.
 
Chris, In spite of our problem remains I would like to thank you for all the help you provide so far, and for being calm and patient with us. Hope we can discuss more Netduino stuff in the future.

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 02:39 PM

Hi Chris,

 

So, if not possible give me the schematic files, can you send me all libraries of components that are included in netduino 2?

 

I'm really appreciate it.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Kind Regards.



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Posted 04 May 2014 - 04:55 PM

Hi,

I don't know what happened here, but what's the big deal for giving the .sch files. I use Arduino a lot a never have this kind of problems. Because i also use Visual Studio on a daily bases i was wondering i could give netduino a try, but since providing the schematic file (not in PDF please) is a problem. I maybe shift to another platform that uses ARM. Maybe Beagle or Pi. I have this picture attached that shows how common is the presence off the schematic file in other competitors. If you don't help the community how do you expect people uses netduino platform? unless the intent is academic if that's the case i take back everything I said

 

 
Best Regards
 
Leandro
 
PS: it would be nice that someone reply to the posts.

 



#14 salvadorrichter

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 06:58 PM

Hi guys,

 

which version of cadence allegro did you use to create the brd files?

There were different viewer all supporting different versions.

 

Regards

Salvador







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